Grief, Death, and the Afterlife

“Some spirits (like moi) just get up and leave before the going gets gory, and others don’t, but this does not mean they have psychic pain as their bodies die. Spirits do not retain the pains of life. So yes, some linger through heroic efforts, but they don’t arrive here with that as part of them.

“Spirits arrive about the same, whether they died in a horrible way or just expired in their sleep. The transition is what makes them
D&C, not the physical realities. So no one comes here hurting, although some first-timers come here thinking that hurting would be a badge of honor, and so they concoct their own sense of hurt. And boy, do we get a kick out of that.

“Once the departure is begun, no pain–just as those with
NDEs say that as soon as they transmit into that awareness, they feel nothing physical from that side until they return to that side. So, no pain, all gain.

“One of the clues is: the less D&C, the more times around.

“So when we overhear people speak about a good death, hey, they’re all good from this side’s perspective. Any problems are on your side, and with the surviving.” (11/11/2005 - G#68)



"We don't have illness here, but don't believe that all suffering is left behind. Here sometimes we suffer from a form of spirit disconnect, in which our entity parts don't go in sync. And then we are miserable--just like unstable entities. We feel (if feeling is the right word) as if we are on the verge of disassembly... ouch. We can't get our acts together, so to speak, and so we can't speak, so to think, and our thoughts just don't go through. It's like being a set of mismatched parts, and being alone as each part.

"But since we spirits... oooOOOooo... don't and can't communicate in that mode, and we'd rather not remember it, it is not often mentioned... and I'm sick of talking about... ! Even expressing it feels bad. Pithpit: bigger than a tidbit and tastier, too... ARF." (12/9/2005 - G#69)



"Energy always flows inordinately when we assume responsibility for another spirit. Mothers are exhausted because of this; novice counselors, and first-year ministers, and people with bad boundaries. When the personal circumstances don’t warrant the exhaustion perceived, then this is often the case.

“So, a person experiences a death, and their life seems to move ahead, but they are tired by a life which makes few demands. Look for a link of assumed responsibility with the departed spirit. The reason some talk of taking spirits to the light is not about the spirits, but about them getting to be able to feel free of the assumed responsibility. The dead can get to the light perfectly well, unless some living are hanging on. And don’t do us any favors. Know it is you the favor is for! But I rant.” (8/6/2007 - G#70)




"Some spirits are here, but think they are alone because this doesn’t match their suppositions. They believe, but not in this exact plane. It will dawn on them, and suddenly they’ll say ‘Wow, where did you all come from.’ And others just wander as if alone forever, while in the midst of us. Consider being right by LD and not knowing it. It is just like you there, until one day a spirit pops out and you suddenly see so many... ARF... and dogs, too... meow... and cats, too... grrrr... and tigers, too, o my.

“And when the insight reaches a critical point, suddenly we see it all--
quantum.

“So, things just keep opening up here. It means that things are more like flowers than tape measures. They have a pattern of development, but it is not linear.” (12/14/2007 - G#71)



“Now, some of my detractors have said I give a great reading but I’m short on specifics about the afterlife. They say I’m just a spirit with a rap. They say they can’t get definite answers from PtoPs. Now let me just say this: Ah. It’s like this:

“I met this spirit down by the Second Gradius of Doubt. He had been around a number of times, and he wanted to know how many times more. Now, I could give him a number, but that would be speculation; I could give him a promise, but that would be presumptive; or I could give him a PtoP about spiritual choices, and then if he opened his spirit, he could see his own answer.

“You see, this is not about me. It’s about those who hear me or read me, and then discover themselves. But if I am pressed, I will say that if you listen to me, you will get a 20% reduction in anxiety and, in the second life, 33% wider choices. And those are not my numbers, but numbers decided by the universal accountants.

“Ok, the spirit over there. Hi. ‘I’m new to this.’ Welcome. You must be tired. ‘I am. But how long will I be here.’ Now that’s the kind of question I keep hearing over and over again. This is a place of spirits that are restless. We are a restless generation. We do not sleep. We do not rest. We move, we act, we decide. And if you are asking restless questions, you are not alone. Some will tell you to relax, and others will say ‘We’ll see,’ and others will truck out specifics of the past. But I tell you--and you can take this to the bank--there is no time, so there can be no answer to a restless question other than, simply, Be. And if others want to accuse me of simplistic jargon, then I say ‘I am, and that’s good enough!’ Hey, it’s been great! God bless God, and the rest of us bless us.

“Ok, any Rikkity supporters can call in at 1-800-123-4567. Hi. ‘I was just listening to that awesome speech, and I can’t believe the spirit is genderless. Way to go!’ And now, on our Negative line. Hi. ‘I’m calling from Hell. Just where does Rikkity get off suggesting we are spirits capable of being. Doesn’t she know we are all dependent.’ Caller, are you saying we are products of something else? ‘I am, and any spirit that can call itself a spirit knows this.’ Caller, what about any elf? ‘You liberals always bring elves into this to avoid the issue.’ On the Independent line. Ayeeeee. Hi,
Spirit-Span...” (9/3/2008 - G#72)



“I think some over here are trying to establish an immigration policy. Not everyone will be welcomed. There’s a challenge. If you apply the immigration policies in life to the afterlife, do they appear sane or insane. Just a test.” (1/10/2010 - G#73)




“Don’t want to go back, because I know everything of value from before is also ahead. People are nostalgic because they forget that whatever has been will also be. So I will drop that ice cream cone an infinite number of times, but sooner or later I’ll learn not to cry over spilled cream.

“Yep, the situations recur, but our responses may not. That’s the name of change. So sooner or later, I will realize I can’t eat three appetizers, but that’s down the menu road.

“People clutch and hold too often. And that keeps not only the situation from progressing, but also the person. That which we hold tightly holds us just as tightly back. IN said it:
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. So, grasp for events only if you are willing to be grabbed back... or groped back. Gropeback Mountain.” (3/25/2010 - G#74)



“Spirits arrive with their matrix of connection showing as energy. And those strongly connected by what you call love and we call connection, arrive with brilliant energy displays beyond their own energy. It can be quite breathtaking... if only we had lungs. But you get the drift!

“It... how shall I say this... it morphs. And letting go returns some of the energy back to the living. But the dead can then replicate the pattern from their own spiritual energies. So nothing is lost, but energy returns to the creator. And if peeps on your side hang on too strongly and don’t let the replication take place, neither side moves on. And this is just an analogy of what is a spiritual process.

“So there! Ponder that. And it’s 2-way! More later, film at 11.

“It’s the patterns, not the energy, stupid. Caught in an inescapable pattern of mutuality,
as MK would say. And until we fully embrace that reality, we can’t move on–even towards more complexity. We mistake source for pattern–the curse of all religions, except SP. Points do not a picture make, even if each point is right.” (8/15/2010 - G#75)

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